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In Rajshthan District Barmer Kiradu temple ruled by Kirad clan of Rajput at least 200 year. In Aligarh, Hathras, many district in u.p. kirars marriage to Rajput. Kirar are Rajput soldier .Who was a Rajput soldier, it is said that the Kiradu temple which is in Rajasthan was ruled by the Kirad Rajput (Kirar) for 200 years. There are many proofs which can prove kirar belongs to Rajputana community and kshtriya vansh. The kirar are brave soldiers in ancient times and they claimed as Thakur caste and in rajputana community — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhishekdhakad3073 (talkcontribs) 09:29, 28 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Duplicate articles and must be merged

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahensingha (talkcontribs) 19:08, 2 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

There are two different articles "Kirar Thakur" and "Kirar" about one common group of indian people (caste). Its a caste group which according to various sources, known as kirar, kirar chobdar and also as Kirar thakur as the community claims to be Rajput, however the same is denied by the Brahmins and the Rajputs proper. They are listed as "Other Backward castes(Classes)in the Indian central government as well as the various Indian state government. Hence there is no need of having two articles on the same subject and that both the articles be merged to form a common topic. thanx. Mahensingha 19:12, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

The famous Lord Shiva temple located in Kiradu, a place 35 km away from Barmer city, was built in the 6th century during the rule of Parmar dynasty. Kiradu was the earlier headquarters of Barmer district. Earlier, Kiradu was known by the name of Kiradkot and was under the rule of Kirad clan of Rajputs which prove that Kirad are from Rajasthan.<https://barmer.rajasthan.gov.in/content/raj/barmer/en/about-barmer/historical-events.html#> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.247.230.152 (talk) 09:25, 2 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Proposed merge with Kirar

there are 2 articles on the same subject, hence be merged to form 1 Mahensingha 09:10, 25 May 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahensingha (talkcontribs)

Title Thakur

The Title-"Kirar Thakur" is not suitable for the article as with no article of other caste or community even of rajputs, the "Thakur" title is used. Also, if the same is to be used then there must be enough literary resources to prove that they (Kirars) are " Thakurs".--Mahensingha 17:22, 29 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahensingha (talkcontribs)

The "Thakur" title applies to many castes of India and has got nothing to with a singular caste, hence the name of the Article should be "Kirar" instead of "Kirar Thakur". Regards. --Mahensingha 16:51, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

The caste is officially recognized as "Kirar/Kirad" and certainly not as "Kirar Thakur". Hence, needs the title to be changed.[1]--Mahensingha 22:55, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Also see[2]--Mahensingha 23:01, 29 December 2014 (UTC)


Kirars are Rajputs, however like many others, they too claim to be Rajputs. Please do not give false information on the page. Even in Madhya Pradesh, they are known by different titles like Yadav, Chauhan etc. but are by all means different from proper Yadav or Chauhan Rajputs. I request editors to please give reference of any reliable source before editing the page. Thanks.--Mahensingha 19:14, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Please look into the following sources:-

1. People of India: Rajasthan- Kumar Suresh Singh

Its a backward Hindu caste vide
2. Encyclopaedia of Backward Castes, Volume 2 By M. L. Mathur

3.Educational and Social Uplift of Backward Classes: At what Cost and ..., Part 1 By S. P. Agrawal, J. C. Aggarwal
in Maharashtra

4. People of India: Maharashtra, Part 2
OBC Politicians

5. The State of India's Democracy edited by Sumit Ganguly, Larry Diamond, Marc F. Plattner
The Meaning

6. The Tribes and Castes of the Central Provinces of India (Volumes I and II) By R. V. Russell--Mahensingha 19:51, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

You are an idiot and jealous of kirars Subhashdhakad786 (talk) 20:51, 8 January 2016 (UTC) I agree with Mr. Subhash. Some persons of other community are jealous to Royal Kirar/Kirad. There are several article on internet which prove Royal Kirar/Kirad background as a Kshatriya. I have few examples like Kiradu temple of Kiradkot (rajsthan), Thakur Malkhan Singh Of Aligarh. If some need more information about Kirar/Kirad i will share to them. It does not mean at present somebody comes in ST/SC/OBC or unreserved. Historically or traditionally there are only four clan and Kirar/Kirad by born are Kshatriya. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.226.173.2 (talk) 12:19, 4 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

sicks of individual caste insanity.

Fake rajputs kirars original they are peasants and today too they comes under OBC YOGENDRA036 (talk) 16:07, 25 December 2018 (UTC)Reply


The famous Lord Shiva temple is located in Kiradu, a place 35 km away from Barmer city. The temple was built in the 6th century during the rule of Parmar dynasty. Kiradu was the earlier headquarters of Barmer district. Earlier, Kiradu was known by the name of Kiradkot and was under the rule of Kirad clan of Rajputs.

In the early 13th century, Rao Sihaji, founder of the Rathore clan, conquered this place from the Guhil Rajputs. There is an inscription dated 1295 AD which proves the existence of the Rajput clan in the area in the 13th century. Barmer was under the rule of Maharajakula Sri Samantha Sinha Deva at that time.

In the 14th century, Rajput ruler Jaitmal Rathore built the famous Fort Siwana. The fort is also known as ‘Garh Siwana’. In 1308 AD, Allaudin Khilji attacked the place and the fort came under the Khilji rule. The fort of Siwana was restored by Lutinga Chouhan in the years between 1318 AD and 1320 AD when he was able to defeat the Muslim ruler.

In the 18th Century, British rulers adopted the name Barmer for the region. The name Barmer was derived from the ruler Bahad Rao Parmar who ruled the place in the 13th century[3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.247.230.152 (talk) 09:37, 2 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Kirar/Kirad are kshatriya's, Can see some people jealous of Kirar/Kirad clan they should read some research done by Britishers on Kirar/Kirad plus go through this article below just one suggestion your jealousy cannot change the history get well soon. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/rajasthans-castes-were-first-classified-by-british/articleshow/24272494.cms — Preceding unsigned comment added by Viraj999 (talkcontribs) 09:00, 13 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Kirar thakur

The Kirad Rajput are a Hindu caste. The famous Lord Shiva temple is located in Kiradu, a place 35 km away from Barmer city. The temple was built in the 6th century during the rule of Parmar dynasty. Kiradu was the earlier headquarters of Barmer district. Earlier, Kiradu was known by the name of Kiradkot and was under the rule of Kirad clan of Rajputs. In hathras uttarpradesh there are 116 villeges of kirar rajput community called "84 ke thakur".Thakur Malkhan Singh was born in kirar rajput family. They were traditionally peasants and have customs similar to neighbouring Hindu communities. 223.190.82.59 (talk) 19:13, 11 January 2022 (UTC)Reply